http://www.5ylac.s5.com/FilmMakingBook.html
wrote that page in 2001 and still use those books reguarly
I know there have been a few different threads with lists of various book recommendations. But there arent examples to back them up, at least from the posts I've read.
Anyone care to give specific things theyve learned from books on directing.
Shot by Shot seems to be a constant favorite. Specifically what was learned from this book. And any other directing book.
Page references might even be nice.
http://www.5ylac.s5.com/FilmMakingBook.html
wrote that page in 2001 and still use those books reguarly
Im interested in the specifics. What specifically did you learn?
You do say,"One of the things this book did for me is to broaden my scope when
planning shots, as it gets your mind thinking not just on that one shot, but
how that shot fits in with the scene and the rest of the movie and also
thinking about the post process and cutting points right from the planning
stage."
from your website: http://www.5ylac.s5.com/FilmMakingBook.html
But that is a generalization. Specifically, what was in the book that did that?
<font color="#a62a2a" size="1">[ August 24, 2005 02:51 AM: Message edited by: GREATwarEAGLE ]</font>
I always recommend this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...424631-1558016
Because it is funny, full of energy and generalisations, but it cuts through a lot of movie making crap, until you realise how much of the business is just hype.
Its not a technical guide, but motivational.
This is done when he compares budgets for films and has the realisation that El Mariachi was just marketted as a $7000 movie, whereas to actually create the final print cost far more.
You need a hook to capture peoples interest - the hook for El Mariachi was 'its the lowest budget movie ever made' (or was), or for something else - 'the sickest movie ever made' 'The dumbest movie ever made' 'The worst movie ever made' 'The film where Nicole Kidman wears a false nose' 'The Original Zombie Movie' 'the most lavish production' ....etc you need something to make it stand out.
>You do say,"One of the things this book did for
> me is to broaden my scope when
>planning shots, as it gets your mind thinking
> not just on that one shot, but
>how that shot fits in with the scene and the
> rest of the movie and also
>thinking about the post process and cutting
> points right from the planning
>stage."
seems pretty specific to me...you'd have to read the book for the details.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[img]confused.gif[/img]Originally posted by GREATwarEAGLE:
[QB]Im interested in the specifics. What specifically did you learn?
Why not try reading them yourself? You can find out what the books are about by reading the blurb on the back or the review on Amazon... then get the ones that you think would be best for you.
No I dont really think thats what he means... there are countless books and articles on writing screenplays and directing. Because screenwriting is backed up by a large theory, most of those books can help you out a lot especially if you're an amateur. As for directing is concerned, one's you get to know the basics behind editing, mise en scene, cinematography and teaching actors and the like, what more is there to learn from a book instead of doing the real thing yourself?
Which book offers something you woulndt be able to figure out yourself (or at least take a long time to)?
And is greatwareagle back now?
Give me some specifics about Socrates then, Chance.
As far as this topic is concerned, I'll state something that I read in Robert McKee's Story. No page, no chapter number though.
He wrote that as far as dialogue is concerned, you shouldnt try to make it as 'naturalistic' or 'realistic' as possible. When you hear other people talking, or when you have a conversation yourselves, you'll say plenty of sentences that don't have to do with anything, that don't get a certain point across. You'll talk about lots of things before you'll actually say whats on your mind, or wont say whats on your mind at all. In short, talking in real life is bollocks. Film has only so many minutes to tell a story, and if you start a dialogue you'd better have your characters say what then need to say each scene. Don't think of them as real as possible, but as alive (I think he used something like this, not exactly sure though) as possible.
I thought that was a good tip. Although you can get a point of a scene across by having your characters not saying a damn thing of course, but thats another story.
emjen, read some socrates
greatwareagle,
I dont think there is one thing specific, more reading the book as a whole in the case of directing shot by shot.
In regards to the producing the short film and video, well the book has detailed sections on breakdown and scheduling as well as templates.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">film is a visual medium, why tell something when you can just show it instead?Although you can get a point of a scene across by having your characters not saying a damn thing of course, but thats another story.
isnt that exactly what I said in the part you quoted?
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